tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8740475.post111672349350748859..comments2023-07-28T07:44:40.802-04:00Comments on Women as Mothers: Mothers Must be Careful NOT to Allow New Rules in Military Sneaked in Under the RadarNYMOMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05762350054432716749noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8740475.post-1119438718458818272005-06-22T07:11:00.000-04:002005-06-22T07:11:00.000-04:00Yeah you're right..penguins and the Disney clown f...Yeah you're right..penguins and the Disney clown fish...as I told you earlier I am NOT paying attention to these weird, off the far end of the bell shaped curve species that you all come up with to justify separating mothers from their children...<BR/><BR/>As nature, God, evolution whatever has chose MOTHERS as the natural and best guardian to bring forth and care for the young of every species, including our own, and I'm not going to let you twist that with a few odd examples off the far edge of the bell-shaped curve...<BR/><BR/>If you don't like this obvious fact take it up with God, nature, Budda, whoever....NYMOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05762350054432716749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8740475.post-1119425865834651122005-06-22T03:37:00.000-04:002005-06-22T03:37:00.000-04:00"it doesn't exist in nature or any other species"O..."it doesn't exist in nature or any other species"<BR/><BR/>Oh my. You claim to have a degree but it's obviously NOT in the natural sciences, is it? <BR/><BR/>Start with the penguins and work your way from there. You'll be busy the rest of your life eating those words.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8740475.post-1118009897938894072005-06-05T18:18:00.000-04:002005-06-05T18:18:00.000-04:00"Motherhood is no more special or important than f..."Motherhood is no more special or important than fatherhood."<BR/><BR/>Well let's agree to disagree on this...Motherhood is a biological reality, fatherhood is a social construct....it doesn't exist in nature or any other species unless you consider mating and passing along your sperm to be fatherhood..."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Oh just to be clear here, I 'm talking about mothers and infants vis-a-vis bonding...<BR/><BR/>Obviously older children who have already bonded with BOTH parents would be a different story; as it would just be cruel to not recognize the attachments formed between fathers and their children after some period of time has passed...NYMOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05762350054432716749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8740475.post-1118001788363097152005-06-05T16:03:00.000-04:002005-06-05T16:03:00.000-04:00"Motherhood is no more special or important than f..."Motherhood is no more special or important than fatherhood."<BR/><BR/>Well let's agree to disagree on this...Motherhood is a biological reality, fatherhood is a social construct....it doesn't exist in nature or any other species unless you consider mating and passing along your sperm to be fatherhood... <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>"There is no reason men should have to die while women stay home unless they get a pretty big perk for that responsibility."<BR/><BR/>Well then can we say since the MALE contribution is so limited vis-a-vis children that their rights in society should be prorated as well...Like you want to prorate womens' right because women cannot bear arms, as well as they bear children...<BR/><BR/>Considering more women bear children then men bear arms for their country anymore, this could impact more of them then us. Don't you think.<BR/> <BR/><BR/><BR/>"As mother I certainly see your point. But I have two sons. Quite frankly if having one your daughters in combat makes it so only one of my sons has to go, then that is for the best. Then the burden is spread out. All female platoons, with different assignments for their abilities."<BR/><BR/>War are fought to be won...it's not like a baseball game where you lose and come back to play next year...<BR/><BR/>Wars are NOT the vehicle to use so we can share burdens in a politically correct manner or make people 'look good' by assignments based upon some phony assessment of their abilities...<BR/><BR/>The testing has already been done and it is clear that women CANNOT be in the front lines as they simply do NOT have the physical capabilities...thus, to ignore those results shows me that this is NOT about winning wars but about satisfying constituents back home (both MRAs and feminists)who wish women to be in the front lines... <BR/><BR/>This is probably the same group of people who wants other numbers to reflect a completely gender neutralized society where 50% of mother lose custody of their children, 50% of death row inmates are women, 50% of all armed forced are women, etc.,<BR/><BR/>It's a vision of society destined to fail...as I guaranted you that right now your 14 year old son matched with any one of my daughter (32 and 21) could best either one in a fight...<BR/><BR/>It's just life...nothing to be done about it, people who have issues with this fact, need to take it up with Mother Nature, God, Buddha, whatever...<BR/><BR/>Sorry.NYMOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05762350054432716749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8740475.post-1117990541709364682005-06-05T12:55:00.000-04:002005-06-05T12:55:00.000-04:00The problem is that you can't have your cake and e...The problem is that you can't have your cake and eat it too. You cannot expect 50% of government, 505 of business owners, 50% of voters to be women, but then 100% of soldiers to be men. Either we give the political and economic power back to men, or we step up next to men and help defend it. Motherhood is no more special or important than fatherhood. Both are necessary and vital to a healthy child. There is no reason men should have to die while women stay home unless they get a pretty big perk for that responsibility. <BR/><BR/>As mother I certainly see your point. But I have two sons. Quite frankly if having one your daughters in combat makes it so only one of my sons has to go, then that is for the best. Then the burden is spread out. All female platoons, with different assignments for their abilities. <BR/><BR/>I feel for you and wanting to protect your daughters. But remember those of us with sons feel the same way. <BR/><BR/>Only if war would become completely video. They could settle it on a computer with no deaths at all. <BR/><BR/>I always thought why doesn't the armies simply refuse to fight, then let the presidents or leaders duke it out in a ring. They started it, let them fight it.Jen Kuhnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13565268659134199344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8740475.post-1117374411242526022005-05-29T09:46:00.000-04:002005-05-29T09:46:00.000-04:00HOW can women be front line combat troops when the...HOW can women be front line combat troops when the BEST women with SPECIAL FORCES TRAINING CANNOT beat the average man with NO training...<BR/><BR/>So you're basically telling me we're going to allow women in Iraq to fight a war where the average man on the street, not even a trained soldier, but just the average Joe Muslim walking down the street, is going to be able to kick their ass, probably rape and kill them...<BR/><BR/>It doesn't even make sense what you are saying, as you LOSE wars when you do things like that...<BR/><BR/>It's like telling me that a law is being made that henceforth MEN will be the ONLY ones to become pregnant and bear all children, since women are sick of the inconvenience, pain and sheer bloody mess of the whole childbirth thing....<BR/><BR/>Do you think any civilization would LAST long, if it made a law like that???<BR/><BR/>Sometimes, no matter how good an idea on paper MIGHT sound, common sense renders it useless...<BR/><BR/>This appears to be one of those times...NYMOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05762350054432716749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8740475.post-1117373022216606792005-05-29T09:23:00.000-04:002005-05-29T09:23:00.000-04:00I think women should not be prevented from being f...I think women should not be prevented from being front-line combat troops. <BR/><BR/>I believe that mothers, universally, do not wish their children to be in combat. I know mine sure didn't like, or approve, of it.<BR/><BR/>There are some women, not suited to combat, some men as well. The unfortunate 1st rule of war is that young folks die, the 2nd rule is that nothing will change rule #1. (except, not having the war)<BR/><BR/>Great post, glad I stumbled in here!Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07338910000372628114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8740475.post-1117028447932314592005-05-25T09:40:00.000-04:002005-05-25T09:40:00.000-04:00Exactly...and I'll be honest I have always felt wo...Exactly...and I'll be honest I have always felt women SHOULD register for service; but NOT for front line combat...<BR/><BR/>Again, however, I think that's a decision that should be left up to women who are informed with ALL the facts...<BR/><BR/>I mean what I'm afraid of is that because of the way NOW is framing this as a denial of job opportunities to women (I received an emailed newsletter from NOW saying exactly that) a LOT of women could be fooled that THIS is the ISSUE, missed job opportunities and sign off on women in combat w/o understanding the ramifications...(which is this opens up the door to women being forced into registration for future military service)...<BR/><BR/>Again, I'm not entirely against the concept BUT I think women need to understand this is what we are risking by allowing a small group of women to go into the front lines..<BR/><BR/>Just as with gender neutral custody which is misunderstood by even a lot of NOW workers...as I freqeuntly get newsletters from them talking about 'fit' mothers losing custody and how unfair that is...when obviously fit versus unfit is NOT the criteria anymore...actually if one parent is clearly unfit those are the EASIEST custody decisions to make...it's when both parents are fit (which most are) that the problems come in...so NOW which supports gender neutral custody appears to have no real understand of what it is...or how it functions.<BR/><BR/>Most people don't...NYMOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05762350054432716749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8740475.post-1116959607479382802005-05-24T14:33:00.000-04:002005-05-24T14:33:00.000-04:00I agree. I'm concerned that the career ambitions o...I agree. I'm concerned that the career ambitions of a few could come back and bite the rest of us in the behind.<BR/><BR/>Besides, what do we want to fight wars for? Men should stop this foolish business, too. Imagine that after WWI, there was actually a strong public belief that all this would stop, because it was just too crazy. Whatever happened to that kind of principled position?<BR/><BR/>SilversideAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com